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QLD Driver's License New Rules Learners P Plates July 2007

The first phase of the new QLD driving license laws will come into effect in the middle of this year, and the new laws have so far encountered great confusion. So far this topic has generated over 200 comments when it was posted here. So it was time to give the company a fresh new look with updated data and some current facts from the QLD traffic.

The first phase comes into effect on July 1, 2007 and includes:

  • new requirements and conditions for obtaining and holding a learner license
  • new requirements for applicants for a motorcycle license
  • new requirements and conditions for obtaining and holding a provisional license

New learner license

Changes for Queensland Student License Holders under the age of 25 include:

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  • Reduction of the minimum age for the acquisition of a learner license to 16 years, but extension of the requirement to have a learner license to 12 months (currently 6 months). Learner licenses are valid for 3 years at no additional cost
  • Earn 100 hours of road driving experience recorded in a driver's log and certified, including 10 hours of night driving experience
  • A ban on the use of a cell phone, including hands-free calling
  • Prohibition of supervisors and passengers using a mobile phone with a loudspeaker function

Changes for Queensland License Holders 25+ include:

  • Holders of a learner license for a period of at least 12 months (currently 6 months)
  • the learning license is valid for 3 years
  • Encouragement of the learner driver to gain 100 hours of driving experience on the road (not compulsory)

Applicants for a motorcycle license (all ages):

  • must have had a provisional driver's license (class C / CA provisional driver's license) for 12 months before obtaining a motorcycle driver's license (class RE)
  • 100 hours recorded in a logbook

Before we get into the rationale for the new laws on QLD transports, let's reconsider some of the laws above for a second. First, the 12 month learning period isn't a bad idea, but the 100 hours of driver training is a bit steep. If you don't have a car to practice on, after 100 hours of recorded and logged driving hours it will take you 100 hours. QLD Transport says it is ready to count the first 10 hours of driving lesson with a driving instruction as 30 hours, so for every 1 hour you will be accredited 3 hours. But that's only for the first 10 hours. You have to do the remaining 70 hours either in your own car or pay for with a driving instructor. So if you don't own a car it will cost you 80 hours of tuition or $ 40 / hour = $ 3,200. According to QLD Transport, exemptions can be made for those who can demonstrate why they should be exempted while they are making one up Support plan.

Where will this lead? Personally, I think that for those who have access to a parent or guardian car it will result in a lot of fake recorded hours and for those who do not have a driver's license it will be a huge discouragement to get their driver's license. QLD Transport says fake log records are returned with a penalty but I want to know how can they know what is fake and what is not? You just can't. Ask your friends for some & apos;Lessons'.

So we come to the problem of cell phones. Mobile phones have been banned for some time, but a hands-free ban is being introduced. The ban on bluetooth hands-free kits shows a very simple thing. QLD Transport has no idea about technology.

The QLD police will have a hard time locating small Bluetooth headsets in the left ear of the P-Plater drivers. And what about built-in bluetooth car kits? Not good. In other words, better not even speak when you are in the car as the police will give you a ticket like you might have done on your phone. In fact, don't even sing along to your favorite song or you might get booked.

What's even more ridiculous is the ban on loudspeaker phones by passengers in an airplane car! I don't understand how there is a difference between speaking to your passenger in a car and speaking to someone else on a speakerphone that your passenger is using

holds? Speaking is speaking, isn't it? Would the QLD government prefer all P-players just not talking at all when driving? Maybe all P-players have to keep their mouths shut according to the new rules? Absolutely ridiculous.
So now the logbook,

What exactly do you have to do in the logbook?

  • Holders of a driver's license must record their driving experience under supervision, including 10 hours of night driving, in the driver's log. (So ​​90 hours a day and 10 hours a night)
  • Every entry has to be checked by the supervising driver (as far as I can tell, an open license holder who has had a license for over a year can check this).

How is the logbook used?

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  • Upon completion, the log will be carefully checked and recorded by Queensland Transport. This must be completed before a learner driver can take a practical driving test. The log is stored by Queensland Transport and can be used for research and evaluation purposes.

Can you no longer use a logbook, e.g. What if you don't have access to a family car to train in?

  • Not a word yet, QLD Transport says that information on exemptions will be available shortly on July 1, 2007.

Where can you get an approved logbook from and how much does it cost?

  • Logbooks are available from Queensland Transport and licensing agencies. A fee is charged for the log book to cover the costs of managing the log book system. The cost and further information will be available from July 1, 2007.

What if I lose my logbook?

  • You have to re-enter the data in a new logbook and have each entry confirmed by the supervising driver or driver trainer.

What happens if the information in the logbook is falsified by either the learner driver or the supervisor?

  • Penalties are imposed for falsifying logbooks.

What if I cannot access a manager and / or a vehicle?

  • Queensland Transport is currently investigating a number of student driver assistance programs. Exceptions are possible on a case-by-case basis until the proposed Young Driver Support Program is in place.

What if I use a driver trainer?

  • Every hour of road experience with a licensed driver trainer corresponds to 3 hours of road experience, but a maximum of 10 hours.
  • Learners can complete more than 10 hours with an accredited trainer. Every accredited driver training course over the first 10 hours is counted hour by hour against the required logged hours.

What if I am a learner driver over 25 years old?

  • It is not absolutely necessary for you to fill out the logbook. However, it is recommended to have 100 hours of on-road experience.
  • A learner license must be held for at least 12 months.

What happens to learner drivers who obtained their driver's license before July 1, 2007?

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  • Transitional rules apply to learner drivers who were issued a driver's license before this date.
  • If a learner license is renewed after July 1, 2007, the new rules will apply.
  • If you obtained a driver's license before July 1, 2007, there is no need to fill out a logbook and you do not need to renew your driver's license before passing a practical driving test.

L plates

Do I still need to display L-signs?

Yes. All license holders are currently required to display an L-plate on the front and back of the vehicle
or cop a fine of $ 120. The L-plate should be at least 146mm x 146mm with a black capital letter & # x2018; L & # x2019; clearly marked on a yellow background. The mark does not have to be reflective.

Mobile phones

What are the new restrictions on cell phone use?

To minimize the distraction for young drivers under the age of 25, license holders are prohibited from using a cell phone at any time while driving, including hands-free kits and accessories for blue teeth.

Why are these changes being introduced?

Young drivers are more at risk of distractions than experienced drivers. Banning the use of cell phones by learner drivers removes the risk of distraction.

Can supervisors or passengers use a mobile phone?
Supervisors and passengers of learner drivers under the age of 25 are prohibited from using a telephone with a loudspeaker, but they can use a hand-held or hands-free cell phone that allows one-way conversation without distracting the driver.

What happens if the young driver, co-driver or supervisor violates the mobile phone restriction?

A penalty will be imposed. Details will be specified closer to the implementation date.


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Okay, so not that you've read all of the OS from the QLD transport, let's make some sense of it.

I still have to start with my favorite, the cell phone charging speaker and the Bluetooth ban. Now that you can no longer use your phone and your friend next to you, you can no longer put it on speakerphone so you can hear it, but your friend becomes the speakerphone. He's the middle man speaking for you now. Tell him what you want to say and he will say it and then give you the answer he received. Sound stupid? It is.

My biggest recommendation is that all of you who are eligible to attract your learners before July 2007 do so NOW. Don't hesitate any longer and challenge your learners now! And for those of you who have not started studying, get your driver's license before July. Just do it. It will save you a lot of headache in July!

I'm excited to see what new programs are in place for young drivers who can't afford to pay $ 3,200 to take the 100-hour training in the logbook. I hope QLD traffic will make cars available to drivers to borrow for free, or maybe set up a defensive driving course program where young drivers can take some defensive driving courses that are considered sufficient experience to get their driver's license.

What bothers me the most is the exception that drivers over 25 years of age do not have to make the 100-hour log booking. I can see 20+ adults who are not currently licensed see this as an easy way to just wait until they are 25 before applying for their license. These laws discriminate against young drivers. These rules must apply to all or none.

All in all, these laws will make life difficult for young drivers and I wish you all the best of luck. But don't worry, there are people like us who write and complain and do as much as possible to let the government know that these new laws are not going to save lives. For the parents of children reading this, these laws are a great idea. Perhaps after these new laws go into effect, you should take your driving test again and don't be surprised if you fail.

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