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Why do so many Indians want to study engineering?

I have to study politics and war so that my sons have the freedom to study mathematics and philosophy. My sons should study math and philosophy, geography, natural history, naval architecture, shipping, commerce and agriculture to give their children the right to study painting, poetry, music, architecture, statues, tapestries and china.

- John Adams, founding father of America

The appeal of engineering lies not only in India but also in many other developing countries, including China. The reason for this is that a fast growing economy needs a lot of builders and engineers at this stage.

  1. We are building an enormous number of new roads and buildings that will require civil engineers.
  2. We are building many factories and upgrading existing ones which the industrial / mechanical engineers require.
  3. We create our computer infrastructure to automate most of the processes that require computer engineers.

Our energy expansion requires the chemical engineers, new power plants require the electrical engineers, and the expansion of our communications requires electronics engineers. And so on.

Our previous generations have studied politics and war so that we can get to this stage of national construction. To build this nation we need quality engineers. Someday we'll settle down enough to enjoy the fine arts.

Technical quality is hard to come by and quite rare. For example, we found it very difficult to hire top-notch engineers in my various companies. Because talent is so hard to come by, there is a very high demand for quality engineers who make salaries soar.

Since engineering salaries are very high and engineering jobs are serious, a lot of people want to become engineers [all thanks to Adam Smith's invisible hand]. Of course, not all people entering the acting profession become successful actors, as do most engineers. Until we fix the quality problem, most engineers may not get any closer to their dream jobs.

They already have many historical connections. I will add that.

1) Not many alternative options
Some of the most famous colleges / universities in India primarily teach engineering and are mostly residential programs. Most of them follow a very student-centered extra-curricular culture that leads to an overall appreciation of students and they are in great demand.

2) Demand for quantitative suitability
The Indian economy is increasingly service and manufacturing oriented. In both configurations there is an increased dependency on data and analysis. The IT ecosystem in India is also contributing to the skewing of the data. With this tendency, the demand for people with analytical skills increases. Engineers are the easiest to recruit in such cases and so there is tremendous demand in the market

3) Soft skills are undervalued
Soft skills are still considered a luxury when it comes to recruiting in most traditional occupations in India. Although companies increasingly claim to be on the lookout for EQ, soft skills and a well-rounded personality are typically only secondary and tertiary traits employers look for. In situations and companies where a certain maturity of personality is expected, companies prefer to aim for management graduates who are equally present in India.

4) Risk-averse parents
Given the historical context outlined in other answers, the history of economic growth in India is only 15-20 years old. In most cases, the generation before this grew up with limited resources and in environments where stable workplaces were important. So this generation raised their children to look for stable jobs that above all offer financial security.

5) Autonomy and choice are still a dream
India has traditionally lived in large families where the elders had the right to make decisions for the younger ones. With this attitude, even the current generation has not fully learned to be independent enough to make life choices, especially in their teens. So the urge to explore is really missing and most students are only awakened to their dreams during or after graduation

6) View of education as a means of career
Post-independent India has not really recognized the value of education as an end in itself. The love of learning and exploration was not encouraged. With limited infrastructure, degrees became such a precious commodity that people began to have a utilitarian view of education. Indian societies could only afford the luxury of learning when they had a measurable expectation of the outcome in the end. As a result, specialization has been valued and studying for such professions as engineering, medicine, and law has become coveted.

Fortunately, people are realizing the need for change. Some industry professionals and academics have come together to create a world class liberal arts university in India. It's called Ashoka University and is slated to begin in August 2014. Ashoka's founders also launched the Young India Fellowship Program, touted as the Rhodes Scholarship for India.

The answer to this question includes both a historical context and a current mindset.

China had the highest number of engineers trained in 2004 - a whopping 6.00,000. India took second place with 3.50,000 engineers, while the USA produced around 70,000 and all of Europe around 100,000!

So why is there so much enthusiasm among students in India for engineering? To fully understand the reasons, one has to dig a little bit of history.

India after independence (from 1947)

India remained under British rule for almost 200 years before gaining independence in 1947. India has been a free country for almost 65 years. After independence, India was left with huge sterling balances but no infrastructure of its own. While the first generation of computers was invented in the US, India was still trying to find its way after the end of British rule. Indian leaders then decided that the best way to move forward was to first develop India's infrastructural and industrial capabilities . For them, the first step was to become independent and to be able to take care of the 300 million inhabitants of the country autonomously. At that time there were a handful of private actors in India. The construction and operation of heavy industries such as iron and steel, heavy electrics, capital goods, cement and armaments required extensive capital, which is why the government had to drive and accelerate the development process.

These industries required but also alongside capital lots of staff and a high level of technical ability . Against this background, the first Indian Technology Institute (IIT) - IIT Kharagpur - was founded in 1951. At that time there were 10 departments, including mechanical and chemical engineering. In 1956 it became law about the Indian Technology Institute (Kharagpur) adopted, which declared it an institute of national importance. Four more IITs were then set up by 1961. In addition, further regional engineering colleges (RECs, now National Institutes of Technology) have been established. Admission to these institutes, and particularly to the IITs, has traditionally been a difficult process. Since it was then about having people with the best technical minds who could shape the industrial landscape of the country, an engineer became a person who demanded a lot of respect. An engineer also earned more at a time when there were few other careers and jobs that offered good salaries. This led to a middle class of people who had come the technical route.

In the sixties and seventies, India led the way Wars with China and Pakistan . The first war after independence, the Sino-Indian War in 1962, brought about rapid changes in Indian military policy. In 1965 India and Pakistan led the biggest tank battle in military history since World War II. In 1971 India waged another war with Pakistan. The role of technology in these wars cannot be undermined. India had waged three wars in just under 20 years since its independence! This required not only a well-equipped military force, but also a well-equipped engineering force to provide the infrastructure for these wars.

In order to achieve its goal of self-employment, India pursued the policy of Import substitution after independence . This policy was intended to promote industrialization in India by protecting domestic producers from competition through imports. Indian companies were expected to produce locally for local consumption. Since this meant India had to develop the technology in-house, engineering graduates were in high demand by the increasing number of private companies. In order to achieve economies of scale and remain competitive, tech-savvy engineers became as important as managing companies.

This is how engineering became a sought-after, yet respected, course. A significant part of the emerging middle class consisted of engineers. As India moved into the 1980s, this emerging middle class began to have more leverage in running the country's affairs. In addition, this middle class also placed an emphasis on education, with engineering being a clear favorite. The mantra was - study hard. Become an engineer. Build the land. An engineer's future was promising unlike many other courses such as arts and commerce. There was a good remuneration and thus more financial stability in the practice of engineering. In a country where more than half the population was poor, this was an attractive option for getting better wages and a better life.

Post liberalization (from 1991)

In 1991 India was on the verge of bankruptcy. The import substitution policy and the strict licensing requirements for companies led to a decline in domestic quality and industrial growth. In 1991 India took the bold step of globalization and economic liberalization. Suddenly India was no longer in its cocoon, but was open to the world. Foreign investment poured in and India became one of the more attractive developing countries for foreign nations. What led to this, and what Kavya Jahagirdar rightly pointed out in her answer below, is a extensive brain drain . Foreign companies recognized the intellectual potential of hardworking engineers and offered them attractive salaries for working abroad. In the midst of the economic crisis India was going through, this was welcomed by the Indians and started a chain reaction. More and more Indians became interested in engineering with the vision of a better lifestyle abroad.

That followed Internet and the information technology (IT) boom in India. After the dot-com bubble burst in 2000, India became one of the most attractive destinations for Internet and IT services. India not only had the quantity and quality of intellectual output, it was also cheaper from the point of view of multinational corporations (MNCs). These multinationals offered engineers higher salaries than most companies would have made if they had worked on site. But for an MNC, hiring an Indian engineer in India was still a lot cheaper than hiring an American in the US. Therefore, multinational corporations poured into India in great numbers. For an Indian engineer, this got even better. Now an Indian engineer could earn a higher salary while in India. In addition, there was an opportunity to go abroad, which had become a symbol of status and prestige in Indian society. He / she only had to invest 4 years in an engineering course. With this increase in multinationals pouring into India, of course, competition in mechanical engineering also increased. Thus, an Indian engineer working in a multinational company was seen as a sign of his / her intellectual ability and financial stability.

That also played a major role huge increase in the number of educational institutions . The following graphic shows the sanctioned admission of engineers since their independence ( Reference: R. Banerjee's Report on Engineering Education in India, 2008 ).

The graph shows that the number of students for engineering courses increased after 1991 and has increased particularly sharply since 2000. The number of IITs in India has increased to 16 and the number of NITs to 30. As of 2006, there were 1,478 private universities in India.

Conclusion

Thus, one can see the reasons for the large number of Indian students studying engineering from a historical context. Societal mindset, financial stability and perceived intelligence are some of the main factors driving the current growth of engineering graduates in India. In addition, an engineering degree offers a good platform for studying in India as well as at renowned universities abroad such as MIT and Stanford, as they recognize Indian engineers as intelligent, competent and hardworking. Engineering is also seen as a “undergraduate degree” because engineers have a high level of analytical skills and application-oriented thinking high flexibility in changing career paths to have. Because of these skills, they have a wide variety of career opportunities.

In recent years, the number of students choosing courses other than engineering has increased. While this is a positive sign, there is no doubt that engineering continues to be the dominant choice of college graduate students.

If you browse a newspaper in November and December, you're sure to see news (read ads) on various college placement records in BIG fonts, and the company is hiring hundreds of students.

This is what arouses the desire for a student who is studying in the 11th or 12th year of study and is oriented towards such a career. Plus, the hype that exists in India regarding an engineering degree is fueling this. As a result, subjects like humanities and math or science-only subjects do not get into the spotlight and prompt students to choose engineering.

Then the availability of a large number of places (there are thousands free here in Odisha) makes it very possible to get an engineering degree. The hype has become so saturated that traits like slacking off, wasting time, cramming, studying the night before exams, cheating, etc. are only associated with engineering students when in reality, as Balaji Vishwanathan has pointed out, they are required is these skilled people to build our nation, that is, these should be the students who should work the hardest. This shows the decline in the quality of engineering education in India.

Let's take a look at some statistics. Andhra Pradesh alone has over 700 engineering schools. This shows how accessible engineering is. The downside, as I pointed out earlier, Odisha has thousands of seats vacant. A recent study found that only 11% of engineering graduates are readily employed. But the madness (I couldn't think of a more fitting term) continues.

Some other reasons engineering is popular:

1. Groupthink - Many in my class choose it, and so do I.
2. Parental pressure
3. Uncertainty (propaganda actually) - engineering -> 4 years -> work, science -> 20 years -> no work
4thEnvironment: If any family member is an engineer and is now in the US, I should do the same.

I'm an engineer dropout. I was exposed to the same hype and worked as an engineer. Then I realized it wasn't my calling and now I'm studying math and computing. So you can see that not everyone is interested in studying engineering, although that number is small.

It is a combination of:
Social pressure + status + conditioning + limited options

Let me explain

Social pressure:
As everyone knows, India is a developing economy and engineers have an important role to play in developing a developing economy. Hence, there is an enormous demand for engineers. In an economy like this where everyone is trying to become an engineer / doctor, or someone with a significant qualification, you just can't be satisfied with doing something or doing nothing at all. We don't have that luxury. There is tremendous social pressure to prove your intelligence or to be forgotten.

Status:
Everyone seeks status, and the elders in the family have undue respect for saying you are an engineer / doctor. This works in both cases:

Case 1: You have no engineers in your family. If so, you will become a rarity and widely respected in your tribe.

Case 2: Your family is overflowing with engineers. If you become one of them, you are on the right path to success.

Cracking the coveted JEE (with incredibly low success rates (<2%)) also gives you the ultimate stamp of being a child genius.

Conditioning:
In India, every year more and more engineers graduate from the thousands of institutes without the required qualifications / lack of opportunity and therefore work in professions that are not necessarily suitable for them. The internet is flooded with numerous articles about Indian engineers working as railroad drivers, rickshaw drivers, sweepers, etc. It's shocking but true. These can be isolated incidents that go out of proportion but are good enough to deter parents and children from working hard and qualifying to avoid such a fate.

Limited options:
Not a single child dreams of growing up and sitting in front of a computer solving an obscure mistake. They want to be astronauts, scientists, explorers, musicians, athletes, etc. However, if you belong to an economy where millions of people struggle for anything, you are looking for security. For every position on the Nation cricket team, there is more than one lakh cricketer struggling with fights, and that goes for every single profession. Even India, as a developing country, does not have a huge research budget and we do not have that many scientists. The number of astronomical institutes is small, as is the case for all other professions. Contrast it with engineering, where there are hundreds of engineering schools in every state and the market for engineers growing steadily with the onset of the technical age. This is an obvious choice.

Just to put things in perspective:
Andhra Pradesh, one of India's many states, has 900 engineering schools.
Engineering education in India

For all of these reasons and the simple economic theory of supply and demand at work, so many students choose engineering.

It is often said:
India is a country where people first become engineers and then decide what to do.

Now you know why.

Very good and comprehensive answers were given to this question. But I will share a personal experience and a different perspective than previously written.

I am an engineer who was born and raised in a village that emerged from the many engineering projects that the Indian government embarked on immediately after independence. I was born in the 80s in a small village called TungaBhadra Dam, which was created from nothing in northern Karnataka about 30 years earlier.

As the name suggests, it is famous today for the dam that the government built in 1949 and completed in 1953. The dam was built not only to meet the regions' needs for irrigation of agricultural land, but also to generate hydropower. The construction of a dam is no small feat, and that was also the case in the 1950s. Many men moved to this place, railroad tracks had to be laid in order to bring the building materials and the huge dam gates to the construction site. A steel mill was built as this dam stretched for miles and required 33 gates and supporting infrastructure. A huge power plant was built, employing electrical engineers and maintenance personnel. As the dam was a technological marvel of its time, it became a mini-tourism destination (also due to the fact that the world famous Hampi was only 20 km away), which required the creation of huge parks, small aviaries and zoos, and plenty of public recreational infrastructure next to one state hospital, tennis and indoor sports club for the elite, football stadium, good schools and what not. The village in the 1960s had a park called Radio Park and it broadcast All India Radio every evening. This was before the radio became a personal issue and invaded individual homes.

If the description of the village sounds like a technological marvel, you bet it was. Now that you are growing up in such a technical marvel with many fascinating objects, you can only concentrate on such mechanical and electrical objects and over time become curious to play with them. No doubt that as engineering became affordable, this place became a hot bed of engineering talent.

In my current city, Bangalore, it is no different. Public entities like HAL, NAL, DRDO, HMT, BEL, BHEL, BEML, and army groups like Madras Engineering Group are the reason Bangalore, a generation later, has become a stronghold for engineering talent in the country, take a look at the many Wonders of engineering that emerged between the 1950s and 1970s and produced engineers a generation later. Many engineers will only be inspired to pursue engineering as a study and career topic.

With that argument, I think we only need such great miracles in health care. Perhaps a few health cities like IT cities or electronic cities will spawn a lot of careers in medicine.

Reflecting on the question, I think the following maybe some reasons for the inclination towards technology among Indians.

First,
There is no institute of national importance like IITs / NITs for the humanities and arts. State colleges definitely exist, but there should be IIHs (Indian Institute of Humaities), IICs (Indian Institute of Commerce), etc. Even converting top arts / business schools to INIs will help. INIs receive better funding and recognition abroad. Such institutes can encourage parents to study humanities / commerce. Instead of wasting money on new IITs and watering down the quality, building IICs and IIHs helps.
List of institutes of national importance
See for yourself that there isn't a single college of commerce and humanities in the list above.

Secondly,
Instead of board grades as the only admission criterion, entrance exams for admission to arts and humanities universities are introduced. In my opinion the board grades are very arbitrary and depend a lot on who is reviewing the paper / what mood the person reviewing the paper is etc. One of my classmates had really good English, he got 75/100 on the boards , possibly due to the fact that he wrote complex and thorough answers. I prepared myself mostly through my 12th from JEE, writing simple, to-the-point answers, and I got 95/100. Also, the level of board exams has dropped like nothing, instead of focusing on concepts and asking tricky questions. Most questions are simple questions assuming you've raided the curriculum. With entrance exams, people will actually study diligently, and the mugging culture can be constrained to some extent.

Third,
Improving the mindset of society.Most people believe that arts and commerce students are considered worse than their science counterparts . This is one of the most important factors in my opinion for people choosing science after the 10th. We have to clarify this by advising parents in appropriate counseling interviews / informing people about different careers in these flows / carrying out aptitude tests for students etc. Improving the level of language and SS education (social studies) up to the tenth can also be helpful. Most teachers and students simply take SS as a subject to be invaded and not understood. The teachers themselves encourage raiding among the students. When properly taught, people who have a thing for geography can turn out to be geologists rather than engineers. Language learning is even worse as people get guides / digests to write answers instead of thinking for themselves. The cruel irony is that teachers who tell people not to follow digests themselves expect correct digest answers from students in exams to reduce their exam burden. Writing a more creative / personal meaning of a learned poem may not get you high marks.

However, this is my take on the situation (based on what I experienced in my school), as I did not take art / commerce myself I cannot vouch for the accuracy of any of the above. If I'm wrong anywhere, feel free to correct me.

You will find many excellent answers below. This is how I imagine this problem (it's a problem) when I put my career advisor / coach hat on Public Sector Unit and came out of the village, I used all the facilities that a power supply unit offers its employees and my family and lived the Dream my parents had for me.

As described in other responses to Independence, Government of India. focused on investing in heavy industry to strengthen infrastructure and the labor market, which meant that the first wave of people coming from the villages looking for work (around independence the Indian population was predominantly in the villages) went to work and found life in these industries - engineering and non-technical professions (operators, fitters, drivers, etc.). Given India's strong socialist tendencies at the time, these heavy industries (Public Sector Units) provided everything - free housing, free medical facilities, free schools, townships created for workers, a great lifestyle for people who were not used to the city's glitz. This created a large group of people who equated financial freedom and professional splendor with engineering professions (either because they were one or because they wanted to see one up close), and such professions and lifestyles became role models for people. Obviously they wanted the same life for their children. This first migration occurred for people born around India's independence (1947). In the 1970s, they found these jobs that were lifetime guarantees.

This has led Indian parents to take a very algorithmic approach to choosing their children's study and career path. The social pressure to adhere to this algorithm is enormous, as everyone around these parents seems to have a similar definition of "success". and want to do the best for these children.

Algorithm # 1 : Here is the algorithm that will be used when the child is in 10th grade and needs to select a learning stream for 11 and 12:

1. If the child has the best grades in the class, get them enrolled in the science stream. If mediocre / low, get him / her trade. If that is not possible, find an art class (which many schools don't offer).

2. If science is chosen, see if there is some way to get both biology and math (so that both engineering and medicine are open). If this is impossible, and the child is a girl, try to see a doctor. If the kid is a boy, try to become an engineer. This is exceeded when a doctor or engineer is with family and friends - experience with family and friends usually takes precedence.

Algorithm No. 2 : Here is the algorithm for grade 12 students who have to choose college:

1. Did you get a place in engineering school? If so, get admission. The same goes for medicine. The seat is usually acquired through an entrance examination or through a donation.
2. If you don't have a place for a technical or medical entrance exam, see if you can get admission to one of the underground universities / colleges.

Well, 20 years ago when I graduated, the first step was in Algorithm No. 2 (Grade 12) exhausted very quickly as there were very few technical and medical seats and most people had to go to step # 2. About 10 years ago the situation changed and tons of engineering schools of dubious quality sprouted up everywhere. Step 1 became available to more and more people, and now the situation is that absolutely no one has to go to step 2 if they don't want to - there are enough tech seats and more.

Of course, this algorithm didn't take quality into account because when this algorithm was created it was assumed (correctly) that the colleges are either good or better, never bad.

This has created a situation where any engineer can be named. Some of these colleges are so bad that these students should not be treated as engineers, and the job market does just that. There is a large employability gap, and IT service companies like Infosys are considering getting their jobs done by graduates rather than engineering graduates .

However, I am confident that things will change. In the next 10-15 years, 3 things will happen that will cause a course correction:

  1. Generational change - As the first generation of engineering generation retires (most of them), their worldview (the most important thing in their careers is stability and steady source of money - which made sense in their world) slowly becomes fashionable. The next generation (my generation - who got into a globalized world thanks to liberalization and the IT boom and did not have to endure as much hardship, scarcity and family responsibility that our parents lived in) has other priorities in mind and therefore change this algorithm slowly. The next generation (who are now entering technical colleges) has a completely different view of the world (much less harshness, much more freedom of thought and expression, etc.) and will have significantly modified this algorithm and a more balanced algorithm.
  2. Death of engineering schools - There will be a backlash because so many people will be stamped as engineers (with no engineering skills) and so many fraudulent institutions like engineering schools (without the ability or intention to create engineers) - there will be no jobs for them, so will the demand decline, which will force universities to close what is already happening, albeit very slowly.
  3. New success stories - This algorithm was created because there was only one success story - become an engineer. Newer generations are faced with new success stories - finance (investment banking), entrepreneurship and new professions. If these prevail, parents will be more intelligent about these options.

To answer that question, let's rewind a little and try to understand what led to this excitement.

In the early 1990s, India experienced globalization and liberalization that went hand in hand with the infamous brain drain.Well-known companies from overseas have recognized the potential of hard working, competitive and intelligent engineers in India and have offered them jobs abroad. The engineers, drawn to the fat paycheck and lavish lifestyle, poured into other countries, causing severe brain drain.

This led to the belief that smarter children would become engineers or doctors. Enrollment in these technical or medical courses has been increased a standard for the validation of intelligence of the children as the other courses such as art or literature were easy to learn.

In contrast to the medical courses, engineering is a four year course with Immediate remuneration after graduation . The rewards were guaranteed within a short period of time.

The Internet age and IT boom in India have paved the way for more engineers and opened up greater opportunities for them. The multinationals (Multi National Corporations) from other countries began to outsource work to these Indian engineers in order to receive a higher salary than the average person who worked for a local company.

This led to the gradual rise of bourgeois society, which now wanted higher remuneration and more comfort. Once used to such luxury, desires turned into needs. To ensure the maintenance of such a lifestyle, an engineering degree seemed like a promising path.

In addition, an engineering degree offers the Flexibility, the career path after graduation too to change . Due to their logical way of thinking and their application-oriented approach to problem solving, engineers can be found in almost all professions.

In summary, here are some of the main reasons behind the engineering craze in India:

  • Financial security
  • Perception of mental superiority
  • IT boom
  • Flexibility in changing career paths

I will try all possible ” To examine dimensions ", from which we can derive an answer.

  • Yes, India is a developing economy, it is in the infrastructural revolution stage, but in fact the above fact doesn't matter while deciding on engineering as a career choice.
  • Most parents force their children to study engineering because a B.Tech diploma would be the safest option.
  1. It makes you a graduate.
  2. Even if you fail as an engineer, you have more opportunities to look at it, for example aiming for an MBA or testing your chances in the civil service examination.
  3. The students do not lose the pace. Because of their strict curriculum, they work hard for 4 years which ultimately helps them have a better chance at the other options. (Based on personal opinion)
  • "Follow the crowd blindly" (Alias ​​"Bhed Chaal" in Hindi) So if your uncle's son is an engineer, buckle up, boy! The neighbor's daughter is in Bangalore, buckle up!
  • The harsh reality is that most Indians don't even think of other options and the mindset of "becoming an engineer" takes over their brains when they pass their high school exams.
  • To most Indian families, the fact that their descendants become engineers is as evident as the deed of Death (The Bollywood film “3 Idiots” shows this perfectly!)
  • "Only the rich and business class can afford to look at the other career opportunities as they have tons of cash to back up in case they fail." - This attitude is pretty common. (Again personal opinion)
  • Most of us will ignore this fact, but it is relevant ... “The hype created by the coaching institutions” and the mindset again (12th Ke Baad) - Most of us would say that, hey! It's not justified to blame them (Oh really?). The more the aspirants, the more sales. It is a vicious circle of supply and demand. (The last line sounds confusing.)
  • Now a reality check.
  1. Students are unaware of the other "good" options that they might be really "good" at.
  2. Talent is a myth
  3. Students are “forced” to do so.
  • Let me justify this, most of the so called "engineering students" look to the "other" options from their sophomore year. (Bhai! Galti Hogayi)
  • B.Tech …… ..and I'm a bank clerk so I have an engineering degree so I can work for a bank. (Seriously?)
  • The reason could also be the lack of job opportunities in the mechanical engineering sector.
  • We produce quantity, but what about quality? (We have separate factories for these unfortunately! Limited, only 19 of them.)
  • Why did you go to the IIT when at one point you had to choose the civil service or the IIM? (I still don't get this.) Shouldn't you be building a robot or something? Then what about the knowledge that was acquired in college? No longer of any use?

We need a lot of engineers !! (Really?) No, not really, India's mechanical engineering sector (commonly known as IT SECTOR. Right, no?) Is only alive because we export our services. (Thank god they fit everyone's budget)

We need engineers (contrary to the above statement, but seriously a lot), but not those who have a B.Tech degree, but those who have the qualification to be an engineer. We have some brilliant examples but we still don't have a homemade Google or a homemade GE or a homemade Facebook !! We have people working for them, practically "Is that the order of the day?" Most of us would say yes! After all, we work and earn (logically) what's the problem with that? Congratulations!

Bottom line: Most of us would argue that the "need for engineers" in India (for many reasons, as perfectly explained in some other answers) led to all of this, Yeah!I agree, but the need for “quality” is not a question of “quantity”!

I know that I have deviated from the essence of the original question.Excuse me for that!

Most of the points arise from my personal opinions and practical observations. I am a student but not an engineering student.

So please excuse if you find any of my opinions “wrong” and please correct me (if necessary ;-))

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1. Lack of awareness
Not all students know what they want to do. You have vague ideas about the term
"Career" and it is often confused with her hobbies.
There is a lack of suitable career guidance mechanisms.

2. Conservative society

After high school, you sit and discuss at home ... what's next?
parents ask their neighbors, the neighbors ask their colleagues, the colleagues talk about a distant relative who earns a huge sum with an engineer, and so the cycle goes on.

People believe that a professional degree is either an engineering degree or a medical degree.
Because studying medicine is as difficult as putting together an encyclopedia and it takes a lot more time.
Parents often only have one of the two options: ENGINEERING

Either way, if you even find out that there are other careers, there is something else you can do later.
In the meantime you have a professional qualification, a good job.

3. The trend.

Regardless of what you are good at, you want to do what “the in” is.

The best selling product in India is education. And the best marketing strategy is word of mouth.
This scenario is particularly true in southern India.

It used to be a Bachelor in Computer, then Engineering, and then CA (Chartered Accountancy)

No matter what you want to do, you will be swept away in this tide!

Thanks for the A2A.

First of all, I am Indian and not an engineer!

Yes, there are very many Indians who want to become engineers. In my view, most of these people take up engineering for the following reasons:

1. As an engineer poses no one really questions how smart you are ! Being an engineer is more of a "Prestige" problem than anything else. (Well, to say the least, I'm an MCA and have always been compared to my cousins ​​/ friends as an engineer. But I know that I chose what I wanted to do, not what the " Trend ”forced me)
2. There is one huge range of technical spaces and someone with a very humble academic background can get a place in a technical college anywhere in the country.
3. The way after the engineering is due to the The booms of IT companies are mapped out . I know Civil & Biomed engineers who work as programmers in the IT field. 🙂
4. A majority of us still do not understand that what we do for a better part of life depends on our graduation. We don't analyze what we love . We really don't think backwards. Think about what we want to become, then choose a degree that enables us to do so.
5. Our schools, and to some extent our parents, ask us to believe that the brightest minds an engineering degree strive for 🙂
6. A stable workplace and overseas job opportunities have become the norm for everyone in an IT department. and the money is pretty good.
7. Also a Post-engineering MBA is becoming the new norm ! I don't understand why a page on b.com./BA/B.Sc. is not enough for an MBA. In fact, you spend comparatively less on these degrees and have more options after you graduate.

For some people who could argue my arguments, I would proactively add that there are very few engineers who join the railroad or construction field. etc. and really make use of their “technical” skills.

Most Indians do not realize that in high school we were already part of an arranged marriage. I'm talking about the day after the tenth grade that you decided on the subjects you wanted to take.

How many of you had any idea what to take with you?
Yes, most of our arranged parents got married to engineering.

Our parents showed us the girl / course and then told us.

“Son, this is who / what you need. Make us proud. "

One year later…

"Where's the baby / where are the grades?"

And then your thinking ...

"Can I at least get to know you / the course?"

A few years later, that marriage ends in divorce. You tell your parents, "It's not all going well."

And then your parents say, “We know the son, your choice now. We support your decision. "

"Really?"

NOTE : I do not blame my parents or anyone else's parents in any way. This is just what happened to most of us. And it wasn't just our parents. Teachers, friends, and especially society, led us into this hasty marriage.

1. Lack of career guidance : If not medical, it's engineering. The students don't even know that there are other career opportunities for them.

2. Incorrect occupational safety : There is a notion that engineers get work as soon as they pass out, even before that. This dream leads to the fact that the crowd is drawn there.

3. Pressure from parents / peers / siblings : Many parents force their children into this stream. I've seen a lot of friends of mine who came to college just because of their parents.

So much so that I admire Balaji Viswanathan's contributions and responses, he does not justify the question in his answer to that question. The question is why so many In the Study engineering.

The only reason for this is an inefficient Indian education system. Tell me something, does a student in India make an important decision in their life by the time they graduate from Grade X? NO. He is spoon-fed for thirteen years in a row. He continues to follow a line. Everyone (almost) follows this line. The first big decision comes after class X. Science / Commerce / Humanities. Many students feel that without further consideration, they should just choose science because they study well and because they achieved a good percentage. In fact, the best schools in grade XI do not have access to science higher than that of the humanities and business studies. Why ? Does science have more value to society than commerce or the arts? Makes it ?

This thought process is also further supported by the parents (who have thought processes that are based on their educational age and that have no resemblance to the current status of currents and subjects). They just push their kids on that basis. A good student must choose science. A person who cannot get science has no choice but to choose one of the other two. Seriously? This is how students choose streams. At least 60 percent of the students.

After that, it's pretty much the obvious choice. Prepare for Jee / AIEEE. Not everyone can get a decent college, so they go to any engineering college (because they obviously have a science degree and it would be shameful to take on anything else). And this is the reason why so many technical colleges have emerged in recent years. People who could have been great painters. People who could be great teachers. People who might have been great archaeologists. Everyone is in a downward spiral of survival. From the strongest.

#include

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#include

/ * XMaths means grades in math in 10th grade.XScience means grades in the natural sciences (physics, chemistry and biology) in the 10th grade.* /

void CareerChoice (string XMaths, string XScience) {

if (XMaths == “Good” && XScience == “Good”) {

cout < "engineering="" ist="" es="" für="" sie.="" sie="" sind="" eine="" zukünftige="" iitan.";="">

}

otherwise if (XMaths! = “Good” && XScience == “Good”) {

cout < "medizinisch="" ist="" es="" für="" dich.="" aiimsonian,="" denke="" ich.";="">

}

otherwise if (XMaths == “Good” && XScience! = “Good”) {

cout < "commerce="" es="" ist="" für="" sie.="" chartered="" accountancy,="" mba="" von="" iims";="">

}

otherwise {

cout < "kunst="" ist="" es="" für="" dich.="" duh!";="">

}}


This little algorithm is used to select careers in India. Even in math and science, it is not difficult to achieve good results in 10th grade. So you can connect the dots.


I've made a weak attempt at satire. If you like this answer, please take a minute to flip through my blog: The Voices In My Head

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Like most of my answers, I'll try bluntly and brutally to be honest. Unlike some other respected writers who have mentioned the “Indian love for engineering”, “need for engineers” in India, etc., which I consider to be nothing but polished nonsense; The real reason for most students, especially middle-class society, to choose engineering is ... Continue reading.

Indians as a race are conspicuous, outrageous, inconspicuous, obsessed, fanatical about them United States of America in love. It is the inherent dream of every parent; or the maximum of such that if his / her child can choose any technique; It is the easiest and easiest way to enter and settle in the US at some point. The land of dollars and dreams. That is the fundamental reason.

Here are the observations of my life. and key points why most students choose to choose engineering:

3 main reasons:

  • job : The Indian SME mentality is based on the premise " Search for education " For " Securing a job ". It's not about gaining knowledge; or to advance humanity / society; rather, “self-realization and individuality” is valued above everything else. Children are put into the rat for their education and ultimately, in most cases, forced to Engineering or Medicine too to study. so that they can be better placed in life.The key point in choosing engineering is to apply for a master's visa in the US and then settle abroad. or you work for Google, Microsoft, Oracle, IBM or a top MNC to ensure a smooth life. A steady paycheck at the end of the month is the derivation of our " constitutional collective consciousness “.
  • Are you planning to move to the USA: Critics may ask, "Why don't Indian students go to the UK and study in Oxford, Cambridge and other countries?" Why the USA? Unless you're really gifted; and secures a coveted scholarship, e.g. Rhodes scholarship, etc.; In the UK it's pretty expensive. After graduation, the cost of tuition, housing, and living could easily rise to 45-50 Lacks in a year. It is pointless for an Indian student to use this amount as an education loan as the main desire is to get a job. It makes sense to choose any simple subject for masters. enter a US university; and then somehow secure a job to live in the US. And then get a company that can get an H1B visa. More than two dozen of my friends have done the same thing. The goal is to enter the US and settle in the US. The land of Dollars and dreams .
  • Dowry: Third is the most important. Nothing brings a man in India more A dowry, if he has an H1B visa in the USA and prefers to apply for a green card. Which is directly proportional to the number of requests he would get for games for his life partner. The amount can be up to INR 5 crores or more. It is pointless for anyone to come to Oxford or Cambridge. Do a DPhil and win a Nobel Prize if the girl (or her parents) asks - What?You don't have an American green card either?Who cares about your DPhil and the research and Nobel Prize?My baby always wanted to shop in New York and eat pizza in San Francisco !!! This is of course written in sarcasm; But yes, the reality is very similar. I lived in the UK for over a decade and worked in Seattle for years. The most common question asked in India was: What's your CTC?Not registering for the green card?

EXPERIENCE FROM MY OWN FAMILY:

My own older sister married to a humble scholar who graduated from IIT in India with fantastic grades for her degrees. and then did his Masters at the coveted MIT in the US; spent 11 years in Europe working for a top Fortune 50 organization in their research and development department. They moved to India a few years ago and worked in Bangalore for the same company (not for life, only for 3 years). He was getting an INR salary of about 7 lacs a month + a duplex villa + a company car + a salary for the maid who lives like a king and queen in India, but my sister was not happy. I saw how much my sister tortured him every day and mocked him emotionally - " Let me know if I can commit suicide ... because we're not going to the US ". I visited her on the weekend but eventually stopped walking because she bothered him every day and it felt bad to be an outsider. She could not show her face to her friends during the Durga Pujas celebrations because they said, " Bangalore is not San Francisco, you know! ”. The poor man was tortured for 3 years and eventually gave in; He took a transfer through the same company that is the world's largest manufacturer of semiconductor devices and eventually moved to Palo Alto. I still remember the day he left that he was down because he loved his life in Bangalore.

In short, “engineering” offers the maximum chance of entering the United States of America. I've seen generations of people in my current family. and distant families do so; more than dozen of my friends do, and I believe hundreds of people I know personally do. The mantra is simple: “Finish engineering, get involved in the GMAT, and go to an MBA in the United States. It doesn't matter what you do or how you finish it. and done once; Look for a job; if necessary also in a small company; Keep looking for an employer to get an H1B visa. and then post a couple of years; File for a green card ”.

Result ? As soon as you come back you are the hero of the family, the neighborhood and people from distant lands will travel to see you, meet you, greet you, touch you, kiss you, hug you; and say: " Hail, the Almighty!He / she lives in the land of "free sex", the land of opportunity, the land where dollars fly from the sky, the land of the USA! ”. The gray-eyed lady across the street who always thought of you as a "useless guy with a bad future" says a hello! and see if you need any help killing the mosquitoes in case they are bothering you!

In fact, as a bong, I visit Durga Pujas in Calcutta every few years. There's nothing funnier to see how people act - when you have a son OR a daughter; but can't speak Bengali. Because he / she in California was born . People all come together and kiss him / her and bless him / her and say, " Oh!Who cares about Bengali?Do not worry!So nice that he / she speaks English!Of course, she was born in California in the United States of America. “Once my sister, her husband and her child stood in line for Durga Pujas Pushpanjali; guess what? The pundit who does the pujas once heard that she lives in the United States of America. has all of us little ones almost precarious dead Flowers given; she received a fresh red chinese Hibiscus. We thought : Seriously, dude?She doesn't pay you in dollars.she only has INR !! Of course her husband is an engineer and has settled in the USA!

I have lived, studied, and worked in more than 20 nations on earth, and have closely observed other races. This is my goal in life - There is NO race on earth that is more dependent on " to travel to and settle in the United States of America as Indians.Hook or with the crook.Legal or illegal.In any case and in whatever way! ”. I had friends and comrades who graduated from MS in the US and had worked in a gas pump and in shops for 2 years, and another friend who was a porter at an international airport but did not return to India ... because relatives said ... " My son is in the USA ". This addiction is for the brain stronger, like someone mixing and drinking a dose of cocaine, heroin, LSD and every other drug on earth. I call that ” American Dream Addiction “.

I have answered in detail what exactly the Difference between an average student at Oxbridge (e.g.) and our Indian academic institutions (e.g. IIT / IIMs) is . I will provide the link here. You can read my personal life experiences; read it all the way; When you are done, you will understand everything.

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In India, people tend to work towards their parents' wishes rather than their own. In fact, you can include relatives and neighbors as well. So people work towards their parents, relatives and neighbors aspirations. Or rather, these aspirations become their aspirations over time. So the right question would probably be, why do so many parents aspire to have their sons and daughters as engineers?

Here are some of the things that I believe contributed to this boom in tech ambition in India:

1. IITs
The importance of the role that IITs play in technical standards cannot be overestimated. IITs had a special focus on technology education and were founded at a time when technology was becoming the hottest area in terms of job opportunities. This, coupled with difficult access criteria, made entry into IITs a desirable goal. After that initial bootstrap, engineers at IITs have excelled in various fields related to technology and other things. The success of the IITians made them and their alma mater famous across the country and accordingly entry into the IIT became increasingly competitive. This resulted in a slew of new engineers, some very talented and bright, who studied engineering but didn't make it to the IIT. Hence, more and more public and private engineering schools have been established to meet the growing demand.

2. Software outsourcing company
The success and profitability of software outsourcing companies in India in the early to late 1990s (and continues to do so today) meant they could create thousands of jobs. Companies like Infosys and TCS have become stable “sarkaari” jobs with higher wages for the past few decades! Since they were able to pick up and train most engineering graduates from most universities, there was the so-called IT boom. All parents wanted their child to study engineering in order to "get a job at TCS". This led to further demand for engineering graduates and an increase in hundreds of engineering colleges, some of which only offer computer science and computer science courses.

3. Lack of other options
It is known that college education increases the chances of success. So you want to send your kids to college. To do this, you need to find a college that will accept your child. Since there are at most engineering colleges in India (for reasons 1 and 2), there is a higher chance that you will reach college if you are photography for engineering. This creates a higher demand for the science stream.

4. Schools that need kids to choose a stream in grade 11
Most schools need children in 11th grade who “pick” a stream of science, business, and the humanities. Since the demand for “scientific” electricity is too high, schools make this allocation based on the academic performance of the 10th grade children. The better academic performers end up choosing science because their friends do the same. This creates another cycle as the best academic artists now all want to study physics, chemistry and math and want to study all engineering. The average business or humanities scholar is a worse academic artist, which further lowers the demand for and competition for other avenues. In addition, 15-year-olds don't really know what their job is to say (20-year-olds aren't much better either). In the end, they strive for the "best" stream they can get for their 10th grade performance. This is also encouraged by parents as this is the “safest” bet.

Read that somewhere on quora,
INDIAN YOUNG GENERATION ARE NOT PREPARING FOR ENGINEERS, THEY ARE PREPARINGIITÍAN

"IIT is a philosophy, not just an educational program," says Padmashri Dr. M. Anandakrishnan, former chairman of IIT Kanpur.

There is a really good answer from Mr Balaji Viswanathan, but I don't fully agree with him on this point myself.

  • I come from a middle-class family and am preparing for JEE. When I saw the number of students who were fighting for it in Kota (a center for the preparation of JEE in India) and studying at a prestigious institute, I came to the following conclusion: The main reason the majority of students want to study engineering is because they (my son will one day be a Be an IITian ) the psychology of Indian parents to study, and I say this without blaming it. them way. Parents and relatives of every Indian child believe that this child will change the fate of the entire clan (if necessary) or at least tell someone that your child's study in an IIT is itself a status symbol. As the next generation, it is your duty too, but that duty takes its toll.
  • Well why are we preparing for the IIT, simply put, because we want a higher package and respect from others. If you come back to what you are preparing for, no one is saying that I am preparing to be a good engineer, but we say, "Sir, I am preparing for the IIT". It's funny, I just took this snapshot.


nobody wants to know why but everyone knows how ..

  • It is really good to have an institution like the IIT in your country, but I don't think it is justified to run your higher education policy in relation to the IIT. I MEAN WHY ONLY A FEW?

My teacher told me that out of 6 lakh applicants for the IIT there is only 1 serious lakh and 50,000 deadly serious students. Your competition is with these 50,000 students. But after that I kept thinking: If, according to JEE, only two or three thousand students get good places, what about the remaining forty-eight thousand deadly serious students?

  • Now I just want to say that there are also outsiders who sincerely follow their passion, work in the field of research, go to ISRO or choose to be either a teacher or a historian. but their percentage is very low.

So our goal is to be enrolled in an IIT, being an engineer is just a small thing.

With the current social mindset of India: “pass all - increase literacy rate” - education system, centralize good engineering education only around the IIT, increase competition and decrease resources.
Can you really blame the students or their parents?

I've read most of the answers here that are really good and serious, but I would like to see it from a different perspective on a lighter note.

Just read it as a story and just try to understand the message behind it because the facts behind this story are actually a myth.

This story is the “European history of the mice”
And somehow we can relate to it, to some extent (if not completely).












It happens to us too, we tend to follow things blindly.

  • Come to earth. (no choice: P)
  • Then follow the religion of our parents. (unfortunately no choice here either)
  • Go to school, follow the curriculum. (too young to understand / ask "why")
  • Go to College Engineering / Medical (it's a trend, gives you decent pay)
  • Get a job started working on someone else's dream. (a safe option)
  • Marry. (Follow company norms)
  • Have children. (follow the cycle of nature)
  • to die

This is the life most of us live or believe in without realizing that there is no such thing as “life” that just exists, exists on earth. Very few people are alive.

Credits: WhiteHole Creator- Curry (writer), Jabelle (illustrator)