Why are engineers considered smart?

How smart do you have to be to study?

How smart do you have to be to study?
Myself and a colleague are discussing how intelligent you have to be to study

My position: You have to be very intelligent. Reason: Every day at the university I see people who are worlds apart from the general population in terms of level. If these people pass their exams with a 1, x or 2, x, I don't see an average intelligent person having a chance of breaking anything at university

Friend's position: If you think a little (not completely on your head) and are a little interested, you can go to university

What do you think about that?

thanks in advance



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Unscientific  📅 03.03.2017 13:45:14
Re: How smart do you have to be to study?
Hi,

I always find it relatively relative. You see people who you rate as particularly intelligent because they may just be hardworking, particularly structured, or maybe really intelligent in relation to you.

Your friend may see people who are fairly fortunate enough to get through their studies with little effort, who are easy on their subject, or who are at a lower level in relation to them.

I would say that if you are interested in a subject, willing to learn, can learn to some extent and perhaps not completely on the IQ level of a 3 meter long dirt road, you can master a degree without the brightest candle on the cake to be.
Flix93  📅 03.03.2017 13:45:48
Re: How smart do you have to be to study?
Hi,

I always find it relatively relative. You see people who you rate as particularly intelligent because they might just be
hardworking, particularly structured or perhaps in relation to you
are really intelligent.

Your friend may see people who are quite lucky get through studies with little effort,
for whom their subject lies simply or for those who are in relation to him on one
are lower level.

I would say if you are interested in a subject, willing to learn, can and can learn to some extent
maybe not completely at the IQ level of a 3 meter long
If you are on a dirt road, you can master your studies without the brightest candle
to be on the cake.
Re: How smart do you have to be to study?
I'm talking about STEM people at a TU. They have a very high IQ and are in the range 2, x / 1, x

How is someone who is average then supposed to keep up / pass the exams?

The university is like a collection of exceptional talent. I am amazed by comments like, if you haven't fallen on your head, you can do it



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prudens  📅 03.03.2017 13:58:24
Re: How smart do you have to be to study?
Nothing



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Re: How smart do you have to be to study?
I see it similar to @ Flix93:

The assessment of intelligence is certainly relative:
The question is rather which skills you need in which subject in order to get good grades. I am sure that there are huge differences in the individual departments and courses.

Business administrators always say that they really only have to learn by heart to get a great grade. Am I "intelligent" if I can memorize well?

Negative example:
A friend of mine studied mathematics at the university (not teaching) for 4 semesters. Wasn't she intelligent then because she didn't pass all the exams even though she learned like the devil? Incidentally, the failure rates were (80%
I also don't know if you can say in general that everyone can study that has not fallen on their head, because besides "intelligence" there are other characteristics such as perseverance.
Re: How smart do you have to be to study?
I also think that the ability to study is only partially related to intelligence. Of course, this is extremely dependent on the degree programs - but above all a certain stamina and self-structuring are important. I have seen very bright minds fail on these two points.

And in the field of humanities, I unfortunately have to say that intelligence is not really needed, as the exams and requirements for homework are currently set. Hard work is almost everything.
aldante  📅 03.03.2017 16:51:59
Re: How smart do you have to be to study?
I claim that any high school graduate could successfully complete most fields of study from a purely intellectual point of view.

But some students cause countless problems for themselves or give up on the first problem. You read it over and over again in the forum: People with bad Abi who think they have to commute to university twice 2 hours ... logically, that it will be difficult. Or people who say after 10 weeks of study: oh, that's so difficult, that's so theoretical, I have to do something, then I'd rather not ...

In my opinion, it's only intellectual very rarely a problem. But many students lack the willingness to hang in there when there are problems, to dive through difficult phases, to organize their life and studies in such a way that they can make it. And mostly, unfortunately, these are also those students who have less intellectual skills.
Re: How smart do you have to be to study?
From unknownFew of them manage extremely technical subjects, especially those that are in demand, such as electrical engineering, computer science and the interfaces at a TU
It's nonsense to make it dependent on the subject.
For most technical subjects you don't even need a general university entrance qualification ...
everyone is good in one direction and not every computer scientist could study German or pedagogy or, conversely, an EWS student electrical engineering. ...
For all disciplines you need motivation, interest, a certain talent and the ability to think in a certain way, which will be further developed by the chosen course of study.
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