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Future as a research assistant

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Future as a research assistant

Hi guys!
After a rather frustrating application period, I got the position as a research assistant. Exactly my area of ​​business administration is more remote from a forest and meadow university. In addition, 3 years! Now I ask myself what perspectives are there afterwards? I have to look for interesting topics and then try the same areas in the free economy.

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Few of them make it in 3 years. It's not like that you can arrows on your doctoral thesis all day, but you are the serf of the professor who does the dirty work (putting exams, correcting, answering annoying student questions ...)

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The position as a WiMi is the best that can happen to you (unless you are an incorrigible materialist). Make sure that you advance your doctoral project well - then there are many avenues open to you.

And: Use the three years to improve your punctuation.

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Your chances are good. Make an effort, try to cover relevant topics and you now have a very good chance of getting in touch with companies. Internships are still possible now, just take everything with you. You could also include a stay abroad.

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Congratulations on the rocky road to the C4 Heights of Science. Hopefully it's not just a 1/4 digit plus Hartz4.
The prospects are quite simple: either continue university career habilitation / junior professor or (finally) enter the economy as a board assistant, etc. but then only with a completed (as practical as possible) doctorate, otherwise you have bad cards as a non-practical theorist.

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Most of what goes around as WiMi at the university, especially in the business administration area, are students who psychologically have not yet made it into the harsh reality.
Career opportunities are actually only within the university. In the private sector, a doctorate as a WiMi does not bring you anything (anymore), because it is simply not relevant to practice. This is a big difference to 30 years ago, when a doctorate was still worth something in the private sector.

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You're welcome! Only use the answer function if you can contribute something meaningful and correct to the discussion.
It always depends on the area in which you want to do your doctorate. There are also practice-relevant doctoral topics at chairs. If you want to go into practice afterwards, you should of course have gotten a taste of the relevant area beforehand, otherwise you are really too theoretical for them.

Lounge guest wrote:

Most of what goes around as WiMi at the university, especially in the
Business administration is made up of students who have not yet done it psychologically
to have managed to arrive in the harsh reality.
Career opportunities are actually only within the university. In
the free economy brings you a doctorate as WiMi
nothing (anymore) because it is simply not relevant to practice. That is a
big difference to 30 years ago when a doctorate was still in progress
was worth something in the free economy.

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You can not say it like that! It depends. On the 149,553,452th Personnel or Marketing Dr. nobody waits in the free economy! Specializations in business informatics, finance & co. are, however, welcome and are remunerated accordingly.

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Germany is still blinded by appearances, the Dr. title is definitely a good chance, especially with us AUT or CH

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"Forest and meadows" - is the keyword here from my point of view ...

The problem with the whole thing is that you are scientifically sidelined - your professor will have no contacts, small network and therefore it will be difficult for you to publish in A journals, to present at relevant conferences, research stays, etc. I say not that it is not possible, but it will be a lot harder than if you come from a university with a "name". It's stupid, but reality.

With your further career at the university it will be difficult, because the way to C4 in most cases goes through vitamin B from your professors, who have looked after you up to then :( Typical "circle formation".

As for the economy, I would like the Dr. don't expect a big jump in salary. Yes, you will probably get in higher than someone without Dr. but lower than someone with a diploma who has used the 3 years you used to do your dissertation to work and thus has work experience. The times when the Dr. The prerequisite for moving forward in the company was over.

In this respect, I would say that in terms of career, the Dr. no advantage, but question your motivation! If it's YOUR topic and you've always wanted to do it and you are SIMPLY INTERESTED - go for it! Enjoy the time, try to gain a little practical experience on the side, who knows when you will have the time / opportunity again for such a beautiful 3 years. And oh yes, if you want children and have a partner, I would also think about it, is a good time for flexibility, etc. ...

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take a look at the fact that the c4 salary no longer exists

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hm there top career and total crash are very close together. Those who do a doctorate run a considerable risk. During the time in which you carry the suitcase of a professor, correct the exams and hold consultation hours, other "real-world" work experience is gained while you stay on a theoretical level and deepen it. after 2-3 years the distance is too big to still find accommodation as a beginner and you are on the open sea, then you have to close at any price and you are completely in the hands of your dr.-father who can take advantage of you by the line and by the thread. If the topic is also theory, you can tick off practical entry points and by the age of 40, the habil should also be completed, including several published academic studies. articles only when you are ordained do you have secure ground under your feet.
if you don't want to stay in science anyway, don't either. the more direct route also brings with professional experience more opportunities to change on the job market. if the promotion is not going so well and no scientific merits come out, you are a problem. uninteresting for science and for practice too. I know a couple of crazy university existences, the ones in their late 30s with a doctorate in science. employees hop from project to project with no prospect of getting anything fixed, always only short research and teaching assignments and the competition should not be underestimated there either.

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so i don't want to do research, but after 700 applications this is the first place where i was accepted

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Which university are you at?

Lounge guest wrote:

so i don't want to do research, but after 700 applications
is that the first place where I was taken

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but then these are not good prerequisites. you should have a certain intrinsic motivation for something like that. a lousy promotion will not bring you anything later

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Lol, promotion always helps you.

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Exactly .... hush off into the lecture hall, statistics I are still waiting for you ....

Lounge guest wrote:

Lol, promotion always helps you.

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At least I made Statistics I, I'm not sure if that applies to you too.

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So again the thread creator! In itself, the job is quite ok, only when I think of the village then I feel sick as a city dweller! Only people from other villages live here; the talented all want to go to one city. Nobody can understand why I came here and neither do I!

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I think it depends in which subject you did your doctorate. I think for computer science / engineering it will be compulsory to do a doctorate in the same way as in chemistry, biology etc. (approx. 3-5 years). Most of it can also be developed by people in India, China etc. - it will depend more on innovation (and for that you need a PhD to learn how to do innovation). I think you can also say that for business administration in certain areas, e.g. in the area of ​​finance (innovative financial products). But as I said, there are very few areas.

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May one ask what grade you have in the diploma and whether uni or fh. I am also interested in a doctorate.

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