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The strange suicide of Marcus W. in Berlin

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The strange suicide of Marcus W. in Berlin

March 1st, 2019 at 1:49 am
Hello! I haven't read anything about this case in the forum so I wanted to hear your opinions. This is my first post so please let me know if there is anything I should be aware of.

I found out about the mother of the late Marcus on YouTube a while ago. The case hasn't received that much attention so far because it was also a little strange.

It was about the fact that the named Marcus W. had been on the darknet for some time and got to know people there regarding crypto currencies. The mother said he must have had some money as a result.

As far as I can remember, he wanted to go to Berlin last year to meet someone there, according to his mother, among other things, it was about pedophile rings because he would probably know something he would like to let fly. However, this cannot be confirmed by the mother either.

In any case, he went to Berlin and then a few days later after his check-out he died by suicide at a well-known hotel on Alexanderplatz.

However, the mother firmly believes that there was no way he committed suicide. She has also released some surveillance videos that look VERY strange to me!

But I'll let the links speak for themselves.
Please note the young people in the entrance of the hotel and the security staff when Marcus check-in / out!
He is also said to have changed hotels during his stay, when he checked in at Alexanderplatz he had no luggage with him even though he had traveled with him.
The point from which he is said to have started suicide seemed very unrealistic, including the injuries.
At first I thought that the mother was trying to talk “nice”, but everything is very strange. Also the reactions of the hotel and the silence of the security employee is strange.

In some videos the dead Marcus is shown so please note. However, I do not link them. The mother has 2nd channels.

Note the security man


The strange suicide of Marcus W. in Berlin

March 1st, 2019 at 2:10 am
Very interesting, I'll do some research on that.


The strange suicide of Marcus W. in Berlin

March 1st, 2019 at 4:08 am
First of all, thank you for publishing the case, which actually seems exciting after reading it in and seeing it for the first time. But first a question: Where did the mother get all the surveillance videos from? Will they be pulled out that easily?


The strange suicide of Marcus W. in Berlin

March 1st, 2019 at 4:09 am
Because of the 4 people who come in just behind M., and where one of them then stops (... and goes back a little.)

First of all, there is basically the presumption of innocence in the room.

But there is supposed to be some kind of connection, otherwise it would not be presented that way.

On the one hand, you don't have to be a cunning crook to know that you are being filmed in more or less large hotels.

It differs from hotel to hotel from the entrance via elevator and hallways.
(Apparently there was no camera in the lift where M. followed behind the man with the wheelchair into the lift.)

On the other hand, as a crime scene, I would definitely not choose an object filmed from front to back, where I would have to pass several cams.

Or I come from another country and travel back to this country after my "job".

But it is strange with what uncomfortable way you walk there in the direction in which M. went before.

But it can also be a coincidence.


The strange suicide of Marcus W. in Berlin

March 1st, 2019 at 4:25 am
I've read about the case before and thought it was here in the forum, but couldn't find anything about it.
In any case, there are some posts about it on the Internet and the mother has her own page about it, with all her guesses ...

I know that there are many things in the world that we cannot believe or believe and that not everything is as it appears at first glance and here some things are inconsistent at first glance, or seem to be ... .but somehow I find the mother's side very "confused" or confusing ....

I understand that it is terrible to lose your own child and, on top of that, to ask yourself questions, some things went really wrong and / or not correctly or optimally ...
She was not allowed to identify the body, only with pictures ...
His personal items are still missing, the chain of a watch has completely disappeared or other things were never given to the parents, which is what you normally do
The exact course of the crime or even if it was suicide was not clarified, or in my opinion not better researched or possibly reconstructed (this could also have robbed some speculations)

but with everything I also find the mother's tone not appropriate, which she displays ... with all the sympathy, with all understanding, but she herself presents letters as "proof" that she has with the police, etc. and I can at least look over it ... that the police officer in question only correctly pointed out that she as a person cannot give him instructions, that he has to investigate or that he has to note this or that in the file, etc. .but that the public prosecutor's office has to and they obviously did not do this because the autopsy etc. did not reveal any evidence of a crime ...

In my opinion it is sometimes very unobjective and outrageous (as mentioned, I am sorry for the loss, but because of that you cannot accuse all people and treat them as if they themselves had caused the death of the son). .

In addition, she simply publishes letters and documents or, if necessary, the images, which she is not actually authorized to do ...

I also don't want to have my name published somewhere on the internet without my consent ...

The case was also raised in a forum dealing with Bitcoins, but even there some participants are skeptical about it ... and they are more familiar with the matter .....

If you want to read it briefly:

There you can also find interesting information in general about coins and Pizzagate and also that some consider this to be fake ... so not death ... but Pizzagate or some alleged connections ...

The case gives me too little or the information so far for me to be really convinced that they really want to cover up something here ...

Incidentally, the forum also explains again what it may be related to the fact that nothing more can be found in the well-known media about the case of Marcus Wipperfürth:

Because reporting is generally avoided in the case of suicide in order not to encourage potential suicides ....
That sounds logical and sensible to me ...

It would still be good if some things could be clarified which are inconsistent, but I'm afraid that Marcus's mother would not be convinced even if there were real evidence of a suicide or accident ..

And I'm not saying that it couldn't have been a crime, but that it might not have to be as complicated and conspiratorial as the mother is convinced ..

But it's just my personal opinion ...


The strange suicide of Marcus W. in Berlin

March 1st, 2019 at 4:41 am
After looking at some of the videos on the channel, my honest first impression is:
The whole design and the topics remind me a lot of other confused people's YouTube channels that I have already seen.
I therefore suspect that the suicide of her Sun was such a shock to the woman that she now believes in a conspiracy against her son. Maybe the real gist is that her son just had cryptocurrencies - and then Googling and her head built the rest of the story.

Of course, it cannot be completely ruled out that your son may have entered the drug trafficking environment and people actually killed him. But I think it is much more likely that the mother suffered a shock with serious consequences.


The strange suicide of Marcus W. in Berlin

March 1st, 2019 at 4:55 am
This is a case that has been filed as a suicide by the police. The incident was not published in the press at the time, in order not to make possible imitators aware of the existing possibility in the Park Inn. The elevator in the hotel can only be operated if you have a key card for the room. For this reason, Marcus probably waited for a good opportunity after his check-out to jump into the elevator of a hotel guest. The mother has probably not published all the video files available to her, only those that support her thesis. In particular, the entry of Marcus into the hotel and the people who seem to follow him would also have been recorded. It is strange that there seem to be numerous files available, but precisely these, where the situation may have cleared up, not. A sad case, but without any criminal background.

In addition, one should also consider where this case has been discussed on the Internet so far. This alone should show the desperation of the mother and the group of people who used the event to publish a page.


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